Comments on: Are some exempt from Discipleship? http://www.partoftheglue.com/2009/02/18/are-some-exempt-from-discipleship/ because the ingredients are changing Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:28:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: PD2 http://www.partoftheglue.com/2009/02/18/are-some-exempt-from-discipleship/#comment-16 PD2 Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:45:06 +0000 http://www.partoftheglue.com/?p=130#comment-16 Sadly, I'd have to agree with you that there are not enough mature believers. And yet again, here is another area that sometimes people believe is the Church's responsibility. The maturing of the people can be nurtured through the ministry gifts, but when teaching, preaching, ministering, laying on of hands and all manner of other impartations have been poured out to the people, at some point that person must begin to take the personal responsibility of maturing themselves or taking the impartations and doing something with them - believing them, acting on them, putting them into action. Faith without works is dead. And I personally believe that not enough people take what they have and step out with it to even begin the maturing process - they have all tools, Word, and everything necessary - all they need to do is the two letter Word Jesus told them in the Great Commission - GO! Sadly, I'd have to agree with you that there are not enough mature believers. And yet again, here is another area that sometimes people believe is the Church's responsibility. The maturing of the people can be nurtured through the ministry gifts, but when teaching, preaching, ministering, laying on of hands and all manner of other impartations have been poured out to the people, at some point that person must begin to take the personal responsibility of maturing themselves or taking the impartations and doing something with them – believing them, acting on them, putting them into action. Faith without works is dead. And I personally believe that not enough people take what they have and step out with it to even begin the maturing process – they have all tools, Word, and everything necessary – all they need to do is the two letter Word Jesus told them in the Great Commission – GO!

]]> By: radiantfirst http://www.partoftheglue.com/2009/02/18/are-some-exempt-from-discipleship/#comment-15 radiantfirst Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:25:50 +0000 http://www.partoftheglue.com/?p=130#comment-15 I agree completely that the great commission is a personal responsibility. I guess what I don't understand is why do so many Christians act as if its the church's responsibility and because they think that way they compartmentalize it as a piece of the pie of the church. We say those people do discipleship and those people work in this or that ministry. Its almost like a la carte and you pick your ministry and if you don't happen to be great at discipleship you pick something else. In my opinion everyone is called to personally disciple others if they are a mature Believer. Perhaps there just aren't enough mature believers.... I agree completely that the great commission is a personal responsibility. I guess what I don't understand is why do so many Christians act as if its the church's responsibility and because they think that way they compartmentalize it as a piece of the pie of the church. We say those people do discipleship and those people work in this or that ministry. Its almost like a la carte and you pick your ministry and if you don't happen to be great at discipleship you pick something else. In my opinion everyone is called to personally disciple others if they are a mature Believer. Perhaps there just aren't enough mature believers….

]]> By: PD2 http://www.partoftheglue.com/2009/02/18/are-some-exempt-from-discipleship/#comment-14 PD2 Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:55:55 +0000 http://www.partoftheglue.com/?p=130#comment-14 GREAT topic! Here are my thoughts and comments. Discipleship is a personal responsibility as a Christian and has nothing to do with a church. Now, within the realm of Discipleship I'd say you have areas that you can put your hands to - things like the ministries that are called out specifically in 1 Corinthians 12:28: "And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues" For instance, the work we do within the Church and through the Church, is in the form of helps and in some cases administration. But notice, we are not appointed to one and only one ministry - all of these ministries should be at work within our lives. Yes, the Church and those that have a greater anointing for each of these help, train, and raise up those that are wanting a greater manifestation of these ministries in and through all they do. But once they are trained up or shown how to minister in these areas, that is when we are to fulfill the Great Commission. The Great Commission is a personal responsibility and through that personal responsibility, when we are assembled together, the Church as a whole then takes part in it too. PD2 GREAT topic! Here are my thoughts and comments. Discipleship is a personal responsibility as a Christian and has nothing to do with a church. Now, within the realm of Discipleship I'd say you have areas that you can put your hands to – things like the ministries that are called out specifically in 1 Corinthians 12:28:

"And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues"

For instance, the work we do within the Church and through the Church, is in the form of helps and in some cases administration. But notice, we are not appointed to one and only one ministry – all of these ministries should be at work within our lives. Yes, the Church and those that have a greater anointing for each of these help, train, and raise up those that are wanting a greater manifestation of these ministries in and through all they do. But once they are trained up or shown how to minister in these areas, that is when we are to fulfill the Great Commission. The Great Commission is a personal responsibility and through that personal responsibility, when we are assembled together, the Church as a whole then takes part in it too.

PD2

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